How to Make Liposomal Vitamin C — Response to queries as well as minor updates to process
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Reader comments and inquiries
Ms Hines: I read the harsh criticism of your book and your response recently. As a Ph.D. biochemist I believe the criticism (and of high dose Vitamin C) was typical. Would you send me your new methodology so that I can review it (don’t know the Bradley you are referring to; what is his background?).
The attached pdf may be a more convenient way to read it. You will find the method he suggests to discover approximate encapsulation on page 7. He is not available publicly but “surfaces” from time to time sharing new insights on silverlist.com
May I add, I am an independent health writer – not a scientist or doctor. I base my procedures on a variation of Brooks Bradley’s method. This book presents my experiences as a project as I like to find ways I may help my family’s health. I shared my experience in my short book.There are many disparate ideas on opposing sides with good arguments so it seems even “experts” don’t agree except that any liposomal product, even the commercial Lipo-C version, is unstable and will unencapsulate in a relatively short period of time when exposed to oxygen.I have used Bradley’s method to test my liposomal C and found it is 70% or better but does degrade to 50% in 3 days. Most recently many have agreed that even if the homemade version of liposomal vitamin c is 35% encapsulated it is still viable. I have also used the bowel tolerance test and find that I and my family can take the equivalent of 3 to 4 grams of ascorbic acid every 2 hours with no bloat or diarrhea (which would be typical for someone who takes large 3 to 4 doses of ascorbic acid).
I sincerely look forward to your input.
Should the consistency change during the ultrasonic process? Does it remain watery?
I have experience with it thickening and it generally has to do with how much water is used. The formula I include in my book is a more watery consistency. I have tried modified versions which do thicken when being “zapped” but the proportion of water is nearly half of what I suggest. The key seems to be keeping the ratio of lecithin to ascorbic acid 3:1 or three times as much lecithin to ascorbic acid by volume.
Does this result in a better encapsulation? I am in the process of testing the percent encapsulation using the Brooks Bradley encapsulation test. In general I have found that my solution is 80 % or more encapsulated but by the third day it can go to as low as 50%. This is why you should make as much as you might use in just a few days if you don’t refrigerate and a week to 10 days if you do.
Hope this is helpful –
I tried to buy sunflower granules from Swanson, but they don’t make them although they advertise them on Amazon. Do you have any experience using powders rather than granules? I have some reservations concerning soy, including but not limited to the hexane extraction process. Some internet recipes even suggest liquid sunflower lecithin. Any thoughts?
I know there are some brands that offer powders but I have no experience with them. I’d “google” equivalent measurement for powdered lecithin vs. lecithin granules. For example, when someone asked me what the equivalent amount of liquid lecithin was appropriate, I learned if you were to substitute liquid lecithin for granules, you use roughly half the liquid version.
Liquid lecithin has more water in it. By the same train of thought, lecithin granules have little water in it and powdered has even less.
Liquid lecithin is very messy/sticky to work with which is why I always recommend granules. Your choice though.
It is unfortunate that many of the most easily available supplies are processed with chemicals which have a nasty reputation (like hexane). We each have to weigh out the pros and the cons of any choices we make. Some things we choose to ignore the “evils” as the benefits far outweigh the negatives.
Hope this helps
February 2016 book updates
I continue to be criticized for not including dosages in my book. I will continue to NOT include them as it is a book on how to make liposomal Vitamin C. I have decided to write an article on this blog though and hopefully those who are curious will find it. See Vitamin C How much to take?